Climategate: ‘You’re Not Allowed to Do This in Science’

[Maggie]

Bravo Mr. Muller of Berkeley, sadly, bravo:

Climategate: ‘You’re Not Allowed to Do This in Science’

[SB Shock]

Global Warming Religion were predicting that the Glacier on Mt. Kilimanjaro would disappear. This was contrary to climate data that did not show warmer than normal temperatures. Glacier is now growing again.

http://www.mikesmithenterprises.com/blog.cfm

[RoyalShock]

I find Mike's claim that meteorologists are some of the most skeptical of global warming. While they should be, I noticed that a lot of storm enthusiasts, many of whom are meteorologists, used to look down on anyone who dared question the theory.

At least, that was my observation while spending quite a bit of time on StormTrack.org (the big storm chaser website), prior to Climategate. Maybe things have changed.

[ABC]

Royal, I am not sure you should have admitted you used to be on the storm tracker website. Hurts your street cred.

[SB Shock]

I find Mike's claim that meteorologists are some of the most skeptical of global warming. While they should be, I noticed that a lot of storm enthusiasts, many of whom are meteorologists, used to look down on anyone who dared question the theory.

At least, that was my observation while spending quite a bit of time on StormTrack.org (the big storm chaser website), prior to Climategate. Maybe things have changed.

My perception there was those who were more on the "enthusiast" side who didn't have the scientific education did seem to lack discernment on the issue.

I actually found some very good discussion were some showed that the climate models used to predict warming trends were actually were producing random noise and were inherently unstable.

[Maggie]

Climate models go cold by David Evans

The debate about global warming has reached ridiculous proportions and is full of micro-thin half-truths and misunderstandings. I am a scientist who was on the carbon gravy train, understands the evidence, was once an alarmist, but am now a skeptic. Watching this issue unfold has been amusing but, lately, worrying. This issue is tearing society apart, making fools out of our politicians.

Let’s set a few things straight.

The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s. But the gravy train was too big, with too many jobs, industries, trading profits, political careers, and the possibility of world government and total control riding on the outcome. So rather than admit they were wrong, the governments, and their tame climate scientists, now outrageously maintain the fiction that carbon dioxide is a dangerous pollutant.

[RoyalShock]

Royal, I am not sure you should have admitted you used to be on the storm tracker website. Hurts your street cred.

I had street cred?

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